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this with other units around the country. so while i wouldn't go so far as to say all specialized units are inherently bad, i do think there is way to do hot spot policing without having these elite specialized units, and that all such units should be met with careful supervision and very careful training to overcome the very natural temptation for them to feed off on each other and become overaggressive. >> isn't that about leadership, though? isn't it about oversight and leadership? obviously, you want people to have an esprit de corps as being involved in what they're doing. obviously you don't want the negative aspects of how that can be in that sort of hyper violent way. >> well, that's true. and i think it does require leadership. and it does require supervision. you know, we have a relatively new police chief who has been on the job for a year and a half. and i think she acknowledges that this needs to be a review of these specialized units there needs to be a review of the type of training and crucially