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russia's war in ukraine. so the conversation there, we don't have all the details of it, but undoubtly he will be trying to put forward his views about that and what we have heard from moed saying he realizes and believes that this war in ukraine is bigger than just ukraine. it affects the whole world. this is something that goes beyond politics and the economy. it's a humanitarian issue. he pledged zelenskyy to do everything he can to find a solution. he will want to say okay. let's see how you achieve that. from his perspective, cutting off additional funds, geting to russia, payments for oil, that would be a big step. no indication mode is close to doing that. >> nic robertson, we appreciate your analysis. let's talk more about this with military analysis retired general mark hurtling. i haven't seen you in awhile. it's good to see you as always.