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i mean, that is the hot ticket, right? do you want an invite to obscure social media copycat? the reason why threads could take up the way it did is because it had an audience of over 1 million users via instagram, and right now displays -- which twitter cannot they it is . >> what armenta and zuckerberg saying about how they want threads, this new rival to twitter, how they wanted to be different? >> it's interesting, using mark zuckerberg saying he wanted to be a nicer place, the instagram chief also using the same language that it is going to be a kinder, nicer place than what twitter has become, which you have experienced it as well . >> let's call it freewheeling. [ laughter ] >> and not so safe for brands if they find they don't want the content next is him of the more heinous styles of speech. but, one of the things i found interesting is right away you have this family foundation of a teenager in the uk who had died by suicide and the parents felt it was connected to her