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if they want to keep making allegations that have not been substantiated with evidence, the white house says, okay, we're going to talk about pocketbook issues that affect real americans and i think that's where they're going. >> this is picking up on the folly of appointing special counsels to begin with, the whole enterprise is to take the stink of politics out of the legal system. when you put a special counsel in, you're taking it out of the chain of command and politics goes away. do you really think now that republicans or congress or whomever else are now going to say everything is perfect and everything is above board because david weiss has this new designation. it's going to be the arguments about conspiracy theories and the deep state fueling all of this. and i don't know -- with the -- when jack smith was appointed, it was the same thing. it's -- you're still going to get the criticisms and so i'm not quite sure what's gained by doing that. >> may as well just done it