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talking about in furtherance of the conspiracy, 154 occurred while he was a sitting president of the united states. that's a pretty strong argument to make that maybe the case should move to federal court as it relates to the former president and, of course, you know, mark meadows was his chief of staff and what more can you -- how much more could you be involved in the federal government being the chief of staff for the president. >> alyssa, stunning to see mark meadows' name in an indictment because in the january 6th indictment, i mean he's -- chief of staff is mentioned but he is not charged. >> i think a lot of us assumed that mark meadows was cooperating with the department of justice and i actually think otherwise now, so folks in his camp, they kind of official public line is that he complied with a subpoena but has not flipped with the department of justice. i tend to believe that and i tend to read into it that doj thought he was such a valuable witness they'd rather work with him through the channels of the subpoena than try to charge him in this. georgia is a different ball game and always been with him. when you look at especially

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