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morehouse of the north. it's not the greatest academic institution. this is when we have to draw the line. i cannot sit here on national tv and allow individuals to attack the credentials and the academic record is and the professionalism of clau dean to get the position. because that's what this conversation has devilled into. this black woman didn't dezeser it in the first place. had when we go down this path of saying she had a thin academic record to begin with, she was overly qualified. she was just as qualified as the 30 people who came before her who just all happened to be white. and so that is the -- when we begin to talk about racial an mouse that creeps into this conversation, you have the hearing. and yes, you have the issues of citations, which were ginned up by the right wing, we can deal