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so what are you going to do with these people that might have to stand in line? this is absolutely something that all of the campaigns are thinking through right now. and they're all trying to motivate their voters. and it's kind of coming from different directions. so if you're trump and the trump campaign, they're trying to make sure that nobody overly confident that they are going to win. and so they're trying to remind everyone that's supporting trump they have to come out, that they can't rely on this giant lead he's all had in most of the state polling here in iowa. for ron desantis, you know, they have gone again and again to talk about the super pac that's aligned with his campaign. they say they have an un-paralleled organization and ground campaign. that matters a lot in iowa for the reasons you just laid out about why caucuses are different than just going and checking a bal. so they're hoping that's going to make a difference on monday. they're certainly concern about how do you convince people to get out of their warm homes and go do this? >> it's a tough call.

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