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most committed. and at the end of the day, who is going to really show up. >> and trump has dominated the polling in iowa. there will be a more recent one later on this evening. it will be interesting to see if he is able to maintain his lead. how important will that second place finisher be in your view? >> it is everything really. i mean, the story line is not going to be so much trump winning, it will be who is second and if so by how much. nikki haley needs a second place showing. she could even run a strong third because she has most of her eggs in the new hampshire basket. but ron desantis has to place send. h oig. he's invested everything in iowa. so if he can't do anything better than third, that probably puts him out of the race. so survival thing for both. >> is the iowa voter different in your view? do you see them as looking for some specific or very different