be -- >> ten years ago, when barack obama was sworn in, everybody loved him. we can get back to that. >> i don't thing so. >> not about him only. >> well, i'm optimistic because i'm an american knew that our nation can pull it together. >> larry: will you ever go back to politics? >> right now, the things i carry about is family, this tv show. and contributing in some way. if we can participate in a conversation in a certain way. >> i think eliot is going to fall in love with journalism, larry. he's going to find out that this is late more fun than politics. >> larry: why don't you fall in love with politics? >> never going happen. i've been a journalist for 30 some years. i don't know why anybody runs for public office, if you want to know the truth. >> let me defend that for a second. as journalists we mock politicians and say why do it. because those who succeed do