he's been out and about. we sort of ascertained at 10:00, 11:00 things have quieted down. you've been out and b.interested in what feedback you've been getting on people from the ground about the legs of this movement, that they are going to be back to recall. are they going to be back the next day? >> well, that's exactly what they were telling me, michael. really amazing to see because we were out and about at the times when all of this was going down, when people were getting tear gassed and beat up. we were on the front lines with them and they said they are not going to back down. now is the time for them to see this through. interesting to see that a lot of them felt that this was the first time that they really thought the egyptian security forces were not invincible, that there was really something changing here on the ground, and that, of course, if you will, got even more boost with the military movement and then all of a sudden the police disappeared. you heard from ben before that the headquarters of the national party was on fire.