and from some communication i've had with journalists that are on the scene in misrata, which is that some time in the late afternoon yesterday chris and tim were with a group of other journalists out on what i guess is called tripoli street in misrata. they came under fire and suffered some sort of explosive attack, whether it was rocket-propelled grenade or a mortar seems to be somewhat in question. but they were, of course, grievesously wounded and tim and chris didn't survive their wounds and were evacuated to a triage tent with two other journalists who were also wounded as well. so i don't know much more, frankly, than i think everybody else knows. >> the amazing thing, and you know it firsthand when covering this, i mean, you're clearly putting your life at risk just going to these places, yet sometimes you emerge unskaifted and sometimes you pay the