actually very quiet. it was famous for being quiet, actually, going way back to 1974. then all of a sudden, one day, people are allowed to come up to it as they had never been able to before, and so the state department is saying that is an indication of what's going on, which is, they would argue, syria is trying to destabilize the situation and do a couple of things, you know, send a message perhaps that they can create some real mischief if they are attacked and under pressure by the international community and the united states. >> fouad, no one seems to be raising any doubts about the palestinians who were the ones who went up to the border and the reality of their beliefs, but you have no doubt that this was a -- basically a well-orchestrated warning from the assad regime, allowing these palestinians to get to the border. >> i have no shred of any doubt about this. if you take a look, anderson, at this border between syria and