the president. or it has to be something that if he is going to get a majority for, significant majority for in the house, he will have to -- if it's moderate in -- more moderate than conservative's want, it would have to be something that would have democratic votes. is he not in in as strong position he would be if the michele bachmanns of the world and those who think like her were with him and more flexible on this. >> bill: do you think there are some in the tea party that want this to blow up because they despise the federal government so much. >> i don't think they want it to blow up. i think there is a failure of these newcomers who haven't been around this track before, who don't fully recognize how severe the consequences could be. let's remember, bill, that 16 years ago we were at a similar pass on-know a very similar issue new republican majority, new republican speaker, a lot of freshman republicans with conservative visions of how things were going to go and