i scraped my hands a couple times but not a big deal. >> bob: not up in the air? daps if i look now it might not seem that tall but back then -- >> greg: how long were you a gymnast? democracy long time. >> greg: any pictures? >> dana: no! pervert. >> greg: i'm not a pervert. i'm a fan of the sport. >> eric: parents have become wussified. you know the things that were in a circle and go on and they'd run fast and people would fall off or throw up. >> greg: merry-go-round? daps it's related to the problem of people not taking risk overall in general. i mentioned earlier musical chairs when i was living in the u.k. there was a story about this school district decide nod up with could play musical chairs because somebody had to lose. >> bob: there is a group -- i was going to say a group of outward bound, the thing is to deal with this. it had a home in and signed up