lot of difference. we are using 19 million barrels a day. opec is about 5 of that. we could take a bite out of that >> john: mr. dean says one of the proponents it refuses to put anyone at risk. >> john: let mee him ask directly. the cars are smaller. 2,000 deaths a year. is that proof? >> not necessarily a smaller car that we're talking about. you look at the chevrolet ri malibu, that is 3500 pound car. getting 33 miles to the gallon. we believe detroit can do this. we have faith in them. we can build in this country a day.... >> this is not a question of faith. the point is if you put technologies in a large heavier car that car will be safer still. the auto insurance industry of all the players in this game