ground that will represent the sheer terror and horror of that day and mike burke, who has brother, captain william f. burke, jr., has trying to demonstrate the destruction that occurred and he is being resisted and it seems to me mayor bloomberg among others want 9/11 to go away and they don't want to talk about it and want it to be in the back of our minds and move on. martha: we're looking now at video, that show that the beams of light that have come up from the world trade center site and, you know, i live in new jersey and we see these every year, and, it is a very moving sight. and now there is discussion they might need to find private funding to support continuing to do those beams of light, in years to come, you know, is that part of this? is it sort of a plea to kind of get people to pitch in and support this memorial, going forward? >> well, i mean, that would be wonderful. i think the lights on the eve of