to me that was not only a huge lie but was just cruel. >> is it a cruel lie jose bias. i didn't welcome you. thank you for coming on. >> i don't know how it could be a cruel lie when it was absolutely true. law enforcement asked her to wear a wire on two different occasions and have conversations with george about the duct tape. they had on several occasions done search warrants in the home and exceeded the scope. there was you a time when they left one of the cell phones in his car. any one looking at the case can see this. that came out in a pretrial hearing during -- actually during the trial outside of the jury's presence.