go a long way. >> the liberals, kim, are already saying his appeal is that he's a moderate. and that is not a conservative like all those other crazy republicans in washington. so how does he bridge that in a republican primary, to be able to persuade conservatives who are the bulk of the primary voters? >> yeah, i mean, christie's problem here, and he is relatively conservative for the party. but, you know, being from new jersey and having to work in that environment, the reality is he steps back. some of the reforms he's done have not been as striking or as far reaching as, for instance, what scott walker did in wisconsin in terms of government reform. i think what you see happens is he settles into this second term, you're going to see a pivot from chris christie. he'll be more aggressive about putting out things that really do resonate with the republican base on taxes and government reform. maybe some areas where he's been a little weaker, for instance, the environment climate change. he might try to do something there. >> okay. >> and try to position himself.