but many of these small businesses are going to come out well ahead while being able, for the first time to give health care to their employees. they don't even know it. >> me think thou protest too much. the most bally hooked plan. the signature achievement of president obama's presidency and nobody knows about the good things. >> you have to admit, that's been the problem. the communications had been a disaster. this is where i fault the administration the most. they have not conveyed important things about the program. the tax credit is there. you won't disagree. it's there for small businesses -- >> so the -- scott, let me get back to you. watching this rally i always felt that one thing that could be relevant is the u.s. economy. we're seeing some good signs there but a lot of people feel the same way. if we get even a hiccup on the small business side, all bets are off. >> i agree, charles, and to rick0s point, a lot the small businesses because of the lack of communication maybe don't