house, breaking through fire walls there and some day for whatever reason if china decides to do something major, they could shut the country down without a doubt. as you just suggested, the power grids and atms and gas machines and internet, radio, television, literally everything, they've mapped out a massive diagram how to get into these places and we don't even know all of the places where the chinese have gone in because they go in and come back out and maybe leave a trojan horse in there, they really have us scoped out and we have to hope literally that we can continue to work on defensive measures up to and including the day that they pull that switch and we find out what their real capabilities are. north korea would like to be where the chinese are but they aren't. >> that is frightening, finally do you think that will happen one day? how do we prevent it and can we do the same thing to them? >> that's a great question, it's always a matter of for the