the drug laws tonight. i want to talk about you. you sit in front of me, you're pretty dapper there. how did you get out of a life of crime? >> hope, first of all. i believed in myself. at e at 25 years old, i asked myself in jersey still selling drugs, i said jay, where are you going to be when you're 30? all i could imagine was dead or in jail. i used my superpowers, instead of using them for evil i used my superpowers for good. >> so why can't everybody else do what you did? >> well first of all, freddie gray, he sure can't at 25. he's dead. he doesn't have that opportunity. and when these kind of aggressive policing happen in our urban communities, when people look at us like thugs and don't give us a chance to repair -- >> but they didn't give you a chance to repair it and you're a pyramid. you're at the top of your game.