for it and nothing changed. he did the one thing that he thought might change something. fred has some good ideas about how to make the intelligence committee a safe harbor and more welcoming for whistleblowers and i would agree that generally speaking that's a better route for dealing with this. but that cannot be the only route. the fact is that congress, despite these revelations, has been very slow to change what is a fundamental unconstitutional surveillance program. >> people do want to kill us and i don't feel particularly threatened by this. they are not listening to individual phone calls. >> only 22 people at the nsa are allowed to use this. >> the court has said that it's unconstitutional. >> there have been 38 decisions on this. thirty-five have supported this program. it's clear that this program has stopped terrorist attacks. it stopped attacks in the new york subway, and attack on the