early straw poles a combination of three things if you're going to go to the head of the pack. name recognition, a little bit of electricity and cede with activesses and people are including in, maybe not just your average likely or registered voter you see a divergence in national polls versus these straw polls where people are engaged. now, the thing about carson is that certainly he has to be taken seriously coming out on top and will be on the debate stage when fox hosts the first debate in august, judging by what the national polls look like. he is a been and often charming candidate with a bunch of potential and has been at times an undisciplined candidate so he can cause trouble for himself in some of these areas moving forward. >> can you talk about straw polls? i just said -- just report a few paragraphs ago that jeb bush, and governor huckabee, both out in terms of the straw poll in iowa. is it kind of a thing of the