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can our hospitals function? can they see other paishents besides covid? how full are the icu? i've talking to people in florida, alabama, mississippi, these states got hit really hard and they're getting control of it in the hospitals. that's improving. that's a big improvement. plus and most importantly huge vaccine uptick in those states is helping enormously to dampen the curve of delta. >> bill: scott gotlieb used to run the fda. he says get the vaccine, the immunity may not last so even if you've had covid, still get the vaccine. does that make sense to you medically? >> yes, completely i agree with scott on this and know him well. it is because all of this attention to natural immunity -- you know, bill, i've been talking about this for months and months. the government has been overlooking the power of natural immunity. the problem is we don't have