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explanation. but i also think, like, if you're one of the people benefiting from this, don't you just say, you know what, i've got enough power, i've got enough wealth. >> i'm embarrassed when you call me a victim. it's all they have when you don't have policy solutions. when your agenda isn't noble or righteous, you throw you nail yourself to a cross and say, hey, look at me. i know i got millions of dollars in the bank. i know i'm worshiped all over the country, but i'm really a victim. i'm nailed to this cross. i'm being persecuted through a noose at my construction site. >> yeah, no, that's so wise. i agree. jason whitlock, great to see you tonight. thank you. so the media, particularly social media, have been relentlessly promoting the idea that your kids should undergo mutilation surgery. they call it transition ing. what happens after the surgery? well, that's an interesting question.