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iraq and afghanistan. o pete, thisut shoul d not surprises any of us , should it? >> now, what do you think is going to happen? jihadists are going to carry out their . and when you embarrass, seemingly abandon a mission in a way that creates a void, they take advantage of it and lessen the war in afghanistan needed to end. i'm a recovering neocon mugged by reality. two things on jian be true at once. the courage ofha our war fightes on the ground was was amazing what i witnessed in iraq and afghanistan. but the fallout from thosene to. two nation building exercises was disastrous and on top of it, joe biden decided to leave without a plan, abandoned americans on the ground and handing our weapons to the taliban. what did we think would happen?o son as grresult, their fellow sunnis in isisou found their wa. to afghanistan, just like al qaedak we wou, and they're ge to seek our destruction continually. if it's so obviousy seek anstrs almost predictable, it's completelye. as i appreciate you've been there up close and personal. we always spar about this, but