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huge issue there? >> i think it certainly needs to be more front and center and part of this holistic approach. that was present in the dissent yesterday from justice sotomayor and justice jackson. i think that it doesn't supersede the fact that taking kind of a unilateral approach to this and wiping out race-based affirmative action will set a lot of people back in this country. i was someone that saw the side of the asian american students and the data that they presented, which are that they clearly had been discriminated against to some degree. colleges like in harvard statements will hopefully find some way to work around this to make sure people that have been disenfranchised and underserved in this country to have a way to get to the top universities so we have more barack obamas and michelle obamas. it has to be a holistic approach to making education better so you have more kids that don't need a helping hand and getting to those top places. >> martha: sean, what do you say