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if people don't get elected by their ability to act in a commercial, but you need to look authentic. maybe joe biden's been around so long that that people consider that authentic for him. but really the question is can a president in barack obama, can he really do something for joe biden? we know the obamas are popular. they're popular because they're not in office. they're popular because they're kind of moved on, and they're kind of popular because with we see a contrast between the joe biden policies and the barack obama policies. i think a lot of moderates probably miss barack obama when it comes to where joe biden is. so can barack obama or the obamas -- because michelle's always in the conversation -- can they really do anything for biden at the point depending on who he runs against? will: well, we'll find out. they'll bring out barack obama a few times. the travel headaches continue this holiday weekend, more than 7500 flights were delayed yesterday and 274 were canceled.