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you are ok, we are happy to see. how do you feel looking ahead, how do you feel about all of this? what do you think you are going to do? >> it's hard to say. it's just too soon to know what's going to happen. obviously things will ultimately be rebuilt, the old charm of lahaina will never come back, it will be different. but i imagine it's going to be a huge rebuilding effort that will take time. i'm not exactly sure what i'm going to do personally. i consider myself lucky. i lost two homes, but so many people lost so much more, including a lot of lives. so i just don't know yet. >> gillian: jeff, extraordinarily difficult times and things to talk about. thank you so much for sharing everything you have with us. it's very eye opening, very helpful to all of us, with we appreciate it and stay in touch. >> you are welcome. thank you.