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favorability ratings, i think it was remarkable about his having the highs going into this debate and into the caucuses is that he has had $20 million of negative advertising spent to knock him down. and yet he still has the best favorability rating out of the group. >> trace: yeah, it is starting. i want to know your thoughts, jessica on the fact that the former president is not debating. some say like -- look, he is the leader. he was the president for 4 years. we know where he is coming from. and that you have ron desantis think everybody deserves to know what the candidates are thinking. where do you come down? >> well, i think that all of the candidates should participate it will be a decision. each one of these campaigns. but i would love to see all of the candidates out there together making the differences between each other known and debating each other and earning our votes. >> trace: andy mccarthy wrote this on x, formerly twitter, chuck. it got a lot of attention. very simple.