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>> kennedy: what is interesting and i'd be curious your take on this. everyone trying to put words in the mouths of the forefathers. they would never want a president to commit crimes, but they wouldn't want a president criminally prosecuted as a political tool. it seems clear they carved out clear mechanism for things like impeachment, which is supposed to be a special process for the president. so it feels like we have a lot of constitutional tests here and you use the word unprecedented and there may not be a lot of case law that determines what happens going forward. could this bring us to constitutional crisis? >> emily: it would bring us to constitutional crisis if people pointed fingers at the supreme court and yourn undermined rule