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united states again. >> laura: well, he was the first to endorse him in 2016, which i, at the time, recommended to him that he do. and he did that. and now his promise to his big constituency is okay, i'm going to be acceptable, so maybe can i go on and do one of these other things, which a lot of these former, you know, conservatives are people who call themselves conservatives tend to do. >> laura, when he says is he going to prevent donald trump from becoming president, that means you are giving a second term to joe biden. we have got 12,000 illegal border crossings a day under president joe biden. >> laura: and trump is the threat to the country? >> it's crazy. i don't know what these people have taken where they don't like what donald trump tweets and so they are going to throw the country. >> laura: it's personal i think a lot of personal animus. >> absolutely what it is. you need to wake up and actually recognize that the real threat is coming from an open borders president, who is making the country weaker to china, who is sending billions of dollars of weapons to overseas conflicts