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i think you're probably right on when you say it was an effort to get some video for their film project. because he didn't appear to be there for any reason and he got up and left as soon as someone started criticizing him. with regard to what's about to happen in los angeles and the evasion of tax charges that he faces, there's an irony here. his father has talked a lot about people paying their fair share. if only rich people would pay their fair share, we would be in better shape as a country in terms of our financial health. watch this montage of those comments. >> the wealthy still do very well even though they don't pay their taxes. >> the wealthy still do well. >> have to start paying your taxes if i have anything to do with it. >> martha: raises the question of what -- we listened to the first lady talking about the family. would be wonderful to have a