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the amount of tents and living structures and burnt up cars we saw people living in was shocking to say the least. he also said, quoting, the food's not good and the business owners are, quote, just surviving. he's got 16 million followers, sonja, so this guy's got some sway and this is not a good thing for the city of san francisco. >> absolutely not. and just like us as school board members, they hosted a huge thing for all school board members to go there, we weren't going to go there. but poop and food do not going to go together. i was going to bring the poop map but i forgot. >> the famous feces map in san francisco. >> exactly. they're shutting down businesses turning down opportunity for a city to grow is alarming right but they're not doing anything to solve it. they're making it worse. >> trace: the thing is kate, and you know this because we went to the big event in san francisco where president xi came in and they cleaned it all up and two weeks later it was back to the same thing and the people that i know who live up there are just