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look for the people who are lower than their expectations. those are. so people they may still limp onto the next new hampshire, south carolina, but, for some candidates, it's over tonight. and that's going to be the story. >> todd: you just focused on the bottom of the losers to use a horrible phrase but it makes the most sense here. i want to focus at the top of the losers, second place. how does the second place winner in iowa capitalize on that second place finish and, again, the reason i'm focused on second by all indications it does look like trump is going to be the winner tonight. >> well, we don't know what the weather will do. it could cause some people to stay home, and we don't know whose voters stay home. trump voters tend to be so committed, so very animated about it that they will show up no matter what if they have to swim through banks of snow. but i think the question is does nikki haley eclipse ron desantis for second place, if she does,