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now, his stage presence is very good. the charisma and politics. the experience of being president and now running again. he didn't debate but has been here and iowa. he will give some remarks tonight. he goes into the strong gust of wind at his back. that kind of scene right there is a good advance. >> harold ford jr., when we first met you were a congressman from tennessee. you now live in new york. i believe new york city. you pay about 13% income tax. >> no need to remind me. >> if you are in tennessee you would pay zero. an amazing disparity in terms of political philosophy. i tried to highlight that when governor desantis debated governor newsom. there was a divide. i don't know how we reconcile on issues of the economy,