comments? >> the striking thing to me if you look at the taliban, they don't expect to erase the taliban but they feel they can win their hearts and do it by offer young men job and opportunities in a stable democratic economically sound society. if you recall we had discussions on the show about general mcchrystal's approach and whether it would be a success to tell young men and women out there fighting you have to exercise a great degree of caution in terms of how you deal with people. >> minimize civilian casualties. >> correct. you can't shoot back at sniper areas if you feel the civilians are involved with this open talibaner for additional ways to kill our people? you hear from secretary gates he is pleased with the strategy. he thinks it's working and he thinks the idea of winning over the taliban, rather than trying to wipe them out is an effective strategy. >> charles, as they did with marjah, the operation they forecasted that there will be