from ground zero. now the developers are saying they are open to it open to hearing more even. they remain adamant about serving lower manhattan. are they really serious about possibly moving? with us now k.t. mcfarland. a former defense department official and fox news national security analyst. and marc lavigne, a radio talk show host. k.t., let me ask you, do you think if they move a little farther away it would resolve this issue? >> i think there are a couple of issues at play. i know admiral -- i mean i know imam. i took a course from him after september 11th. i think is he a very sincere man. he sees his mission in life in bridging the communities between islam, christianity and judaism. >> juan: i have got to tell you i have got a problem with this. this is a guy that will not renounce hamas. he won't say where the money is coming from. >> i agree but, the problem is he is being used. where is the money coming from?