he's a complicated man. you were there during some of the more difficult moments in his presidency. you say he's an extraordinary mix of easy-going charm, ferocious intellectual capacity. you say in a curious way the blessing of his times is the disadvantage of his legacy. >> yes, because i think the strange thing for the time president clinton was president was he we had a mini global economic crisis nothing by the one we came through in 2008. we had issues to do with international security. iraq was an issue at the time. kosovo. but nothing like september 11th. in a way, his presidency and his years were years of economic prosperity, a certain amount of tranquility, actually. and you wonder how would he have been with september 11th? >> you raise that question in the book. you asked out loud. you wondered how he would have