>> bill: aggressively go after these guys. tell the american public they are not going to stand for it and anybody who does this stuff is going to at least be in the eye of the storm. and then see if can you follow through on it rather than -- do you think it's really good politics for the president of the united states to ignore this story today, hume? do you really think that's good politics? >> on the matter of politics, it probably contributes to the effort -- to the image this president has had not infrequently of being passive. >> bill: yeah. disengaged. >> brit: that's right. it's a political problem. i don't think it's a substantive problem in this case. the substantive problem in this case is it is very difficult to plug leaks and the president doesn't have much of a history of successfully doing that and with this guy being a foreign national, out of this country whereabouts unknown, getting him is as megyn pointed out to you and you agreed is very tricky business. >> bill: try. good debate, brit. we appreciate it as always. directly ahead the illegal alien