challengers. the rnc chairman will play a critical role in the 2012 presidential election campaign and steele is under fire. let's bring in one of the people who is firing some of those shots, former secretary jim nicholson secretary of veteran's affairs. former rnc chairman also and a former secretary of veteran affairs as i said. thanks for being with us. you are not particularly found of michael steele. tell us why in a nutshell. >> of course it's not personal about michael, but he just didn't understand o or refused o understand the job as rnc chairman. he thought it was about him. and it's not about him, it's about the mission of that organization which is to organize and raise the resources needed to support republican candidates around the country to win elections. and we did have a good election, but it was not because of the rnc, it was in spite of them.