>> bill: final thing is up against michele bachmann having this interesting bill o'reilly.com poll. it's the same constituency. a little bit of general conservative people. who do you think is going to come out on top of that bachmann came slightly ahead of palin. i think it was like 55 to 45 i think you will probably get a slight bachmann advantage simply because she is new and fresh. she is in congress so she is actually on the scene. has more of a sort of a grounding, has been out there casting the votes and is more current. i don't know that it portends for the future but i think if you had them both in the race they would harm each other and allow others to pass them in the field. >> bill: okay, charles. greta van susteren has governor palin on her program tonight at 10:00. pinheads and patriots in a