prevalent in politics today. >> and since secretary clinton was engaged in, we're seeing people speak up about it a lot more than we did in 2008. so that's good. clearly what's happening with michele bachmann now i think is a combination of being treated unfairly, but also, she's now fallen into that silo as being a politician as being prone to gaffes so there will be a spotlight on her looking for gaffes is lot more, i don't think it's all sexism, with the john wayne comment, the media missed the mark, small touns love to celebrate anyone who has a connection to celebrity. i think that's what that was about. they didn't see that. >> that was john wayne versus serial killer john wayne gacy. not the issues that americans care about. erin, let me ask you, in 2008, ed rendell were saying you guys are the only people giving hillary clinton a fair