he had the good -- >> no, don't -- >> -- wisdom to leave and become a private consultant. >> the interesting thing -- >> great job, brownie. >> the guys that rick perry picked up, a lot of them worked for rick scott, the governor of florida. now, remember, rick scott was head of a company that was charged $1.7 billion in fines and damages for defrauding medicare. and they got that guy elected governor. so if i were mitt romney, or somebody else, and saw these guys coming into rick perry's camp, i would say, maybe this guy does have a second chance here. we ought to be worried about a perry bounce. >> well, i just think it's great that the guy who's head of disaster relief for "w" has now come in to solve the problems of rick perry. perfect job for a disaster expert. thank you very much, david corn. birtherism, it's not the prettiest face of america. thank you, wayne, for getting to the roots of this guy. coming up, herman cain's got his 9-9-9 plan, of course, and