gets lost a lot of the time is that he's conservative. what he does is sort of northeastern republican game that pete king from long island is another person who has done this where they vote as republicans or govern as republicans, conservative republicans, i should say and then kind of do rhetorical gestures every now and then that aren't truly substantive among conservatives. so, pete king likes to pick fights with grover norquist and do rhetorical things. new york donors shouldn't support ted cruz. he's still voting pete king 90% of the time with his party or whatever it is. same thing with christie. defund planned parenthood and we just talked about guns. he basically made his career being a bully to american teachers and then do rhetorical gestures about sandy saying president did a good job and that's sort of the model that he's using. >> right. again, he's back to criticizing obama and xriticizing obama on his leadership and you hear rhetoric come into his speeches.