mind. it's a gigantic waste of times. >> isn't it true about anybody? you have your views -- >> inflexible minds are boring minds. the one thing i said before marriage and to this day the one thing i want out of life is to not be bored. i'm not bored. you never persuaded me. >> he's persuaded so many people, mary. >> he's never changed your mind on an issue? >> i have changed my mind on the death penalty. i don't know if you did it or catholicism did it or -- >> it might have been pat robertson. a lot of republicans, a lot of conservatives changed their mind on the death penalty. >> what really keeps me open is my class at tulane. i force them -- i assign -- i'll say a through l write the keystone pipeline as a good thing, the rest of you write it as a bad thing. >> has mary changed your mind on anything? >> well, politically, i don't