this is a choice she made to keep her family together. they didn't start out like this. one day she was faced with a choice do you make banning abortion and calling myself an abolitionist my life or split my family up? >> even toby was not this guy. right? what was the process of him becoming this person? >> he was a drug dealer. he called himself a partier. they were both partiers. he went to jail. this is a deeply religious movement. they are absolutists on abortion and they see everything as sort of redemption through christ. so he found christ in jail and decided that the number one evil in the world is abortion and that they all needed to devote themselves to it and started this organization. >> grew a long beard and off to the races on basing his entire life on to this abolitionist move. >> a lot of them have beards. a john brown look happening there. a lot of the guys we hung out with did have beards. >> i highly recommend people go and check out this documentary.