including the company kalashnikov. how would the united states get them to do more? >> sadly, the american impression is correct. the eu sanctions have been weak. you're right, this is in their backyard. this is first and foremost a question of european security. but narrow, i'd say short-sighted economic interests, are driving their policies so far. of the sanctions which the united states leveled last wednesday were serious sanctions. if the eu were to follow with comparable sanctions, there's a good chance mr. putin would stand down. he has d-- mr. putin is trying o destabilize ukraine while trying to avoid sanctions on his country. maybe today's meeting means they're taking a new policy course. >> especially with so many of their own european nationals in agony right now over the deaths of those people on that plane. thank you so much, mr. ambassad