at a lot of these issues. i think i can bring that to the table at least to the point of discussion and we'll see the kind of support that we can get. >> well, so is that answer -- did you just say that hillary clinton is not a leader that can be trusted? >> no, i'm saying that if you look at my background i hope people will take a look at the different things that we've done. i've spent four different periods in public service, one as a marine in vietnam. one as a committee council in the congress spent five years in the pentagon one as a marine and four as a defense executive and then six years in the senate. and the other periods of time i've been out as a journalist, as a military planner. i've gone all over the country and particularly heavily in east and southeast asia. and i'd like to bring those perspectives to the national discussion. >> one of the other democrats who was also a republican turned independent then turned democrat lincoln chafee who was an opponent of the war in