enough that we now, you know care about it. but it doesn't have the deep cultural roots and identity in the u.s. as it does in other places. >> i think you make excellent points. the point that's often missed in our coverage of this issue. soccer is corrupt and has been corrupt for a long time. this is all correct to bring it now. soccer is not essential to the life of america, not central to our politics society, economic. >> but it is to other nations. >> and other things are, our banging system campaign financing system. we're about to have a multibillion dollar election in which money will play a greater role than any other time in the history of our republic. soccer is easy an easy target to go after. >> it's like the open secret nature of this corruption is really interesting to me. all of these things everyone knew for decades and decades. and it took this moment to sort of make these charges stick. we know about steroids in major league baseball.